Minbari Mondays (B5:s4e15) “No Surrender, No Retreat” and Another Lesson in Practical Empathy

Empathy has very practical real life applications, like making it possible to understand the motivations of the captains on the opposing side, and adjust strategy accordingly.

The result? Keep reading!   🙂

On the 2nd of September, 2261, the drums beat for war, and the time has finally come to rescue Earth from a dictator. While Captain Sheridan plays steal-a-car prep, Londo hopes for forgiveness. Too soon. As G’Kar himself said about acknowledging change and redemption in another, and Brother Theo put in different words:

 “Forgiveness is a hard thing.”

Meanwhile, at Proxima 3, the fate of the war hangs on a man’s decision not to be a hypocrite, when it may well cost him his life:

“What does your conscience tell you?”

The result?

“Negative, Fleet Command. The Vesta will not engage in support of illegal orders.”

And, in tears of joy and wonder, mingled with not a little bit of fear, “here ends the lesson.”


Last Monday’s review was s4e14: Minbari Mondays (B5:s4e14) “Moments of Transition” On Following Illegal Orders? s4e14MomentsTrans  ,



Next Minbari Monday will review: s4e16: Minbari Mondays (B5:s4e16) “Exercise of Vital Powers” Against The “Other”


Nih sakh sh’lekk, sleem wa.

I come in peace, I am your friend.


Action Prompts:

1.)  Share your thoughts on how we Human Beings might start to build a more fully inclusive society for all of us, and how this episode of Babylon 5 could help that process.

2.) Write a book, story, post or tweet that uses these thoughts.


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14 thoughts on “Minbari Mondays (B5:s4e15) “No Surrender, No Retreat” and Another Lesson in Practical Empathy

  1. The space-age genre of sci-fi, certainly in the 90s thanks to Babylon 5 and Deep Space 9, was great for drama about the overwhelmingly difficult choices of command, and all the consequences that spark the subject matter of forgiveness from such choices. I may now find it easier to enjoy sci-fi shows that don’t always require such a militaristic attitude when facing such dilemmas. Because the more humbly experienced the main characters, certainly in the realms of extraordinary sci-fi that challenges morality and perspective, the better the sense of fairness when you’re not used to making such pragmatically unfair choices in the first place. Babylon 5 was a show about difficult times where people were striving for something better. But like us on contemporary Earth, there had to be darkness to help make the light at the end more distinguishable. Thank you, Shira.

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      1. Ya lo hice.

        Oops, ya que ha estado publicado por la UNAM, deberia haber agregado la version en castellano.
        Pero, puse el titulo en ingles porque creo que mas lectores van a verlo si sepan que est’a tb traducido en ingl’es.

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  2. JMS tells us: “Where is the line when you turn passive resistance into active resistance? That’s not an easy answer to come to, and that’s the problem I wanted to play here, with this episode and this whole season.”

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