Minbari Mondays, Mind War, and Gatekeepers with Empathy?

This is the continuation of our fictional letter (reviewing each film and episode of Babylon 5) that I receive each week from Ranger Mayann.

Here is her eighth report:

Nih sakh sh’lekk, sleem wa, Greetings from Tuzanor:

In this very minimal eighth report, still in your Earth year 2258, the second year of operation of the station, there were two unrelated incidents which both came near to affecting the life of then Commander Sinclair. One, so we hear, is rumored to have almost cost him his life, as well as those of the quarter million other inhabitants of that station. The other appears to have involved Sinclair’s human mate, Miss Sakai, in an apparently simultaneous life threatening event. As the Anla’Shok lacks reports on either of the incidents in question, I can only confirm that no high ranking Minbari, and no Anla’Shok, were aboard the station during the time of these events.

From the city of  Tuzanor, on Minbar,

Earth year 2278,

Anla’Shok Mayann

  Addendum to Ranger Mayann’s report, by Shira:  This episode is all about control.  It introduces Bester, appropriately enough, and also, the soon to be infamous Jack. We also learn more about the PsyCorps, but it’s still one of my least favorite episodes, and I cringe every time I hear a certain word mispronounced during what ought to be a very tender scene. On the other hand, we do get another great Ivanova quote:

“Who watches the Watchmen?”

and an even better one:

“Good old PsyCorps! All the moral fiber of Jack the Ripper.”

We also get introduced to Garibaldi’s not so pleasant relationship with Al Bester:

“Anatomically impossible, Mr. Garibaldi, but…”

The really neat thing about this episode, from the Narn point of view, is how G’kar manages to take his role of gatekeeper for Sigma 957 and turn it on its head. He is a watcher of the planet, effectively, but actually uses his power to keep Miss Sakai safe. The PsyCorps, on the other hand, are the watchers and keepers of human telepaths, but not for the rest of us normal human beings, or mundanes, as the Teeps like to call us.  Garibaldi seems to feel the same way Ivanova feels about telepaths, saying “they look at you like you were some kind of bug.”  So this episode is all about control, watchers, and who gets to be the GateKeeper of what, and why, but not always in a bad way. And I do appreciate how the “Becoming” image of the guest star looks like something from an Octavia Butler novel.  Too bad Octavia Butler didn’t get any credits in the episode though.

And there is one other part of this episode that I really do like, which, along with Sakai doing a great mocking imitation of G’kar’s warning that “Sigma 957 is not a healthy place,” just before she realizes that she’s about to cook, shows G’kar starting to reach up toward his potential. Fortunately for Miss Sakai, and by extension, Commander Sinclair, some gatekeepers don’t like others to die embarrassed. Upon thanking him for her rescue, Sakai asks G’Kar what was that huge thing that knocked her into the planetary orbit and nearly cooked her. I love his explanation and I can always imagine the two ants, one looking up and asking the other

“What was that?”

And the other replying:

“You don’t need to know!”

That was part 8 of Ranger Mayann’s letter on the history of the Babylon Project.  It can be seen from another point of view by watching the Babylon 5 Season 1, Episode 6: Mind War, which I definitely recommend.

See Ranger Mayann’s seventh report, from last week.


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108 thoughts on “Minbari Mondays, Mind War, and Gatekeepers with Empathy?

  1. “Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?” (Who watches the watchmen) is from Juvanal’s Satires. It was used by KGB, when it was still NKVD, to justify everybody being encouraged to inform on everybody else, including one’s family.
    Much love,

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    1. Oh!
      Interesting, and most appropriate, I suppose, that JMS would have put it in the mouth of Ivanova (although in theory the KGB would have ceased to exist 200 years prior, unless one considers the current Russian secret services to be a continuation…).

      Thank you, Dolly!

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            1. Fair enough.

              I’m sorry, by the way, that I left out some good Ivanova quotes from my review of the first episode, Midnight on the Firing Line, as she talks with Talia Winters at the end of the episode, about The Choice given to adult telepaths “when they find out what you are.” I love that way of putting things that was written for Ivanova, like the “you’re as much a victim as she was”, and responding to Talia’s “but I don’t feel like a victim,” saying
              “yes, and I do not know if that is good, or if that is bad…”

              (or was it “I do not know if that is a good thing, or a bad thing?” -clearly time to rewatch the episode!!)


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            2. And yes, it was fascinating to watch that most unlikely of situations develop! Took quite a long while, though, over about a year and a half, if I recall correctly…

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            3. I don’t know about the situation, but this is a common pshychological occurence when victimizers convince victims that it’s their own fault and ultimately, they are not victims but victimizers.

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            4. Treating victims like they are to blame is the kind of immorality that we most like to see defeated by our moralized SF heroes. Certainly Capt. Kirk who opposed the rules whenever his compassion took over. When the victimizers in such cases are entirely ET races like the Gorn in Arena, who destroyed human families on Cestus-3 out of no more than fear for themselves and their territory, it paints non-humanoid aliens in a bad light. So when it’s clearly the singularly megalomaniacal villains, like Col. Green (The Savage Curtain), it makes the unification of all cosmic races in the battle against the blatantly true victimizers feel all the more genuinely optimistic.

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            5. You’re welcome. The animated series version of the classic Trek (1973-4: 22 episodes) is worth a look too. 🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏾🖖🏿

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            6. I always love that “othering” of the telepaths, then for the arrival of the Captain to remind everyone that “telepaths are still human beings” -merely with a talent that most do not have, and cannot develop. Oh, and that make them vulnerable to being forced to make you vulnerable, unless you have no secrets…

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      1. Trek is big on that too – the idea of making the victim seem to be in the wrong. (Pop over and watch classic trek’s The Savage Curtain to see how Uhura addresses Lincoln for one that comes to mind – mostly because it was one of the last ones I wrote about probably.) ML

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            1. Cool! Thanks, Mike! Btw, I’ve tried searching for a blog, but you don’t seem to have one, is that right? If you do have one, feel free to leave the link here, if you’d like.

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            2. There are two blogs I just spotted for Star Trek’s The Savage Curtain called the m0vie blog and Tor.com. Someday we’ll get round to it on the Junkyard. 🖖🏻

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            3. Ah, ok, I hadn’t realized that you were one of the authors for that blog. Thank you, and I look forward to seeing this Savage Curtain some time, after I’m less behind on my non-fiction WiP!
              Stay safe, Mike, and thank you for finding this Minbari Mondays post: I hope that you like the perspective!
              (I figured that you all, and of course the B5 Fandom site, have done such a thorough job of summarizing the episodes that I could take it for granted that readers who want a summary can find one, and I just get right to the Minbari points! 🙂 And my own points, too, thanks to Roger’s suggestion…).

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            4. RP and ML have their own system for when they get to specific series or seasons. Even though I’m well known to both of them, I’m happy to make my share of reviews known in the comments section. I’ve never done of my own blog site. For now at least, how it works for me on the Junkyard is fine.

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            5. Sounds like a good system.
              If I’d not already started my Minbari Monday series, I’d have loved to join you gentlemen over there, and just post my share as you do.

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    1. Thank you, Miranda!!
      I’ve tried not to “spoil” the episodes for those who haven’t seen them, but am happy to discuss more details in the comments, if you have seen the first season?

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        1. Umm, welllll, no, but sort of yes, maybe: Patti is the better person to ask about Trek comparisons, as I’ve not seen too much of Voyager. I’ve only seen a few episodes of TOS and a couple of seasons of TNG.
          But it’s B5 that I have mostly memorized!

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            1. D’oh! Oops, sorry:
              Star Trek: The Original Series (aka TOS), and
              Star Trek: The Next Generation (aka TNG).

              I don’t qualify as a Trekker, having seen only many of the episodes, but Patti, who knows all of them, is a Trekker. I am a mere Trekkie! 🙂

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        2. D’oh: sorry, I didn’t explain -B5 is a space station, upon which is set a council of aliens along with EarthGov, forming essentially a United Nations of the entire galaxy. Which works about as well, except that a few key individuals manage to influence great change (after about 4 years)!
          It is so cool, wonderful, exciting, heartbreaking, gut wrenching, and hope inspiring that it never gets old, even after 20 years.

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          1. Ooh, now that does sound interesting. I will definitely check it out if I can. You should check out Voyager as well, we absolutely love it. Janeway is THE best Star Trek captain ever and, having seen some of the other Star Trek incarnations I can say without a shadow of a doubt that Voyager is far superior 😀

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            1. Ah, ok, good to know. I shall have to check it out when I finish my Babylon 5 review series, and my current book, as the posts I’m working up are fairly closely related (or, ok, I’m trying to relate the themes in each B5 episode to the themes in the pages I post on Wednesdays, if they fit well enough).

              Babylon 5 covers such important themes over the entire story arc that it takes a while, and some careful planning, to get them lined up with the Baby Acres vision, but I think it should start to become clearer in a few weeks, and then I can write it all out in my chapter outlines and have a bit of time for something else, like finding Voyager in my Public Library, if they have it!

              Thanks for the suggestion, Miranda, and thank you for reading and commenting here on B5, too! I know you ladies must be really busy with the Vegan Comics, and I’m looking forward to reading more of Marvelous Mildred’s story!

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            2. Thank you very much, yes we’re always busy. It sounds like you’ve got your hands full too, I’m really looking forward to reading more of the Babylon 5 and Baby Acres posts, all of your posts are so inspiring! 😀

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            3. Thank you both, ladies, yes, we stay busy, and we keep inspiring, no?
              I love your comic stories, and I’m loving how inspiring I have been finding them!

              In Service to Mutual Inspiration and to Human Kindness,

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            4. Yes indeed, very inspiring. Your posts remind me of a book we used in our home-school called Unqualified Education which encourages the learner to do their own thing, be their own person, and pursue what interests them. A book for individuals 😀

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            5. Thank you, Miranda!
              Yes, I’m working on a book for individuals, I suppose, but importantly, in the context of community. I think that many of us have gotten caught up in this binary tug-of-war between either collectivism or individualism, and really, imho, it’s not either, but both, that humanity needs to learn more about: empathy cannot exist without community, yet we are each individual human beings with a unique set of needs, abilities, hopes, fears, and dreams. Each of these unique lived experiences fits in, in one way or another, to the bigger picture of humanity, and it is within that context that we need to learn anew how to teach and how to continue learning. It’s not been easy, for any of us, and it takes longer to provide material, as you know, tailored for the individual learning, but then, after learning one’s strongest learning styles, that person can contribute so much more to all of us!

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            6. Absolutely. When I say ‘individuals’ I mean I am hoping for a world of individuals – ie people who don’t just follow what everyone else does, or what the government/media/mainstream tells them. Empathy is key. It’s hard not to withdraw from the thoughtless, selfish mainstream, but a community of empathetic, thoughtful people is something I’d love to be a part of.

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    2. Lots of good dialogue going on here. Miranda – Voyager is, imho, the WEAKEST of all Trek. If you liked it, you need to see Babylon 5 to see how Trek should have been done. I am a Trek fan since 3 years old. I’m 48 now. When a friend insisted I watch B5, I poo-poo’d the idea. No way was it going to be better than Trek. Stick with it. Season 1 is (like Buffy) a bit of an up and down affair, but it ramps up and will blow you away.
      Don’t misunderstand, Voyager has its moments (I loved the Phage) but it went off the rails too often and missed a really great arc idea by going for sex appeal instead of story. (And don’t even get me started on the Demon storyline!)
      I’ll be interested to see what you think should you ever dive into B5. I hope to come back here one day and find you’ve seen it all and have much to say. (HBO Max just rereleased it in remastered format!) ML

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        1. Not that I know of, and now that HBO has it, I expect it to be in their court for a while, but I’m not actually complaining about that because I’m hoping they spark up another round of fandom from it. ML

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      1. Well, it’s all subjective isn’t it? Each to their own. If you think Voyager is the weakest Star Trek and I think it’s the best (ie my favourite) then chances are we won’t agree about B5. That’s not to say one of us is right and the other is wrong. All opinions are valid. But what I love best about Janeway is that she is strong AND compassionate. She is a believable person. Not macho but not a pushover. And respectful of all species, all life-forms. The anti-vivisection episode is probably my favourite. And of course I also love the episode in The Next Generation when Riker tells the alien that “we no longer enslave animals for food” because I hope for an enlightened future like that. Which is why I have been keen to have a look at B5 since Shira said it is ‘hope inspiring’. I look forward to letting you know what I think of it 😀

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        1. You know the biggest thing that put me off about voyager was… well two things.
          Another quadrant of space should have given us amazing stories. Think of that early TNG episode Where No One Has Gone Before where the traveler takes them to a place where space was blue and light beings floated around. We had a chance for amazing. Instead we got more of the same with ferengi and other races we had already met.
          Then the biggest killer for me was 7 of 9. Yes lovely but Trek is supposed to be ABOUT something and what they could have done, even if just over a season instead of the length of her time on the show, was remove PARTS of her Borg implants over the course of time so they could have given us an arc. (Think Donna Noble in Doctor Who if you’ve seen it!). Prejudice could have been addressed far more effectively AND it wouldn’t seem like the Doctor was a moron who could remove all the complex parts of 7’s Borg implants except those pesky eyebrows and finger covers.
          More on this later. Gotta start working. (Waiting for my tea to boil… had time to type!)
          Agreed though on “to each his (or her) own”. ML

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          1. Ok, well I guess for someone like me who hasn’t seen all the other star trek episodes, it was new. As for 7 of 9, I was very sad that Kes got written out, and very annoyed that 7 of 9 was dressed in that ridiculously sexy skin-tight outfit (absurd!), but aside from that I did think 7 was a good character and had some good stories 😀 You’re right – work to do!!! Have a great day!

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            1. I must agree on the little I saw of 7/9, although the math-geek in me really did like her name!

              Clearly, I need to get over to the Trek side of the galaxy (or universe?) more often!

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            2. Ha ha ha 😀 Actually, in spite of the inappropriate outfit, she didn’t have to do sexy things. She was a strong, intelligent, interesting character and there were a lot of good stories with her. I liked her.

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            3. Cool! I never noticed her outfit, much, since her eye-piece always distracted me. It always made me feel like wincing, because I just couldn’t imagine that it didn’t hurt!

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          2. Hi, Mike:

            Thank you for explaining B5, and your thoughts on the various Trek incarnations, and on Voyager, in particular. I would love to hear how your feelings on Trek and its varied shows compare to the thoughts of Patti (I was expecting her to comment on this episode, but I guess she’s not yet had time), as both of you are far more expert on that franchise than I ever was.
            Space was blue?
            Another quadrant of our (Milky Way) galaxy, or some other galaxy entirely? Interesting. The beings of light remind me of B5, of course, but not having seen this show, I should avoid making guesses.

            Ok, clearly I shall have to find some spare time, and some new Dr. Who (Donna Noble?), and also find some Voyager eps somewhere!!
            I agree that the new nomenclature of “to each their own” goes against what we were taught (Gen. X, here…) in school about English grammar, but I also ‘get’ what the intent is: inclusive wording for those who can call themselves neither “he nor she,” whether I understand it or not, so, despite it not having been my custom, I shall agree with both you and Miranda, in that: “to each their own” opinion, and I thank you tons for your time typing while the kettle was boiling, Mike! It’s a very rare treat to have you over here in this part of our galaxy, and I appreciate it!
            Best regards,

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        2. ” Janeway is that she is strong AND compassionate. She is a believable person.”

          Ok, you sold me right there, Miranda: I’ll have to go find this show and see it.

          And I never knew that TNG had taken on vivisection! Excellent! I knew that Picard had an episode in which Amnesty International consulted, on torture, but vivisection is equally horrid, and I’ll have to think on whether any such episodes are available on B5 (yes, there is at least one anti-torture episode that I’m fairly sure AI also consulted on, as it seems that the same tactics are applied by the torturers…), but there are several high-profile personages on B5, like the Minbari (!!), who do not eat meat, and always hold that “all life is sacred,” and thus would agree with Riker (Ranger Mayann would most certainly agree with Cmdf Riker, I believe…).
          I also look forward to hearing what you think, Miranda!

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          1. Actually the anti-vivisection episode was on Voyager. See https://violetsvegancomics.com/2014/02/04/captain-janeway-is-awesome/
            In this, the crew were subjected to scientific experiments by aliens who boarded their ship invisible and could only be seen by 7 of 9 (who is a good character, despite her outfit). The quote about humans not enslaving animals for food was in a NG episode in which the Enterprise was host to some meat eating aliens and had to explain the crew’s distaste for what they were doing. I really like the sound of what you tell me about B5. I am definitely keeping an eye out for DVDs 😀

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            1. Cool! Will pop around to see that post, thank you for posting the link!
              I think I read that there were or would be newly re-mastered DVDs for B5, but I am not sure. In fact, I thought Patti had mentioned that in a fairly recent season review, I’ll have to ask her. I just keep re-watching some video versions for 2003 or so that were a gift from an old friend. The visual quality is less than stellar, but it’s the dialogue that counts, for me.

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            2. No, a friend actually sent me the vids on an external hard drive (which have been since copied several times), which she’d downloaded from no-one knows where. In gratitude (and guilt), and due to my lack of finances, I have always tried to leave as many B5 reviews as possible, to make up for the fact that I did not purchase them. The episodes have so much to teach and so much hope to offer that I always try to work them in both for their intrinsic entertainment value, and for the teaching value, giving credit to the brilliance of JMS’s writing, as well.

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        3. Oh, do you recall the name of the Riker anti-vivisection episode, Miranda: I want to see if Patti has reviewed that one yet!
          (I really must introduce both of you to Patti, her reviews are out of this world!! )

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          1. Sorry no, the NG episode was about meat eating (that humans don’t do it anymore), not vivisection, but I can’t remember the episode. It was probably early on in the first series because I didn’t watch very many.

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        4. (I don’t understand why some of the posts have “reply” under them and others don’t – apologies for being perhaps “out of order”)
          If you take this youtube clip and jump to 2:55, you’ll get a glimpse of it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBx2Djkvib4
          The thing is, I was expecting more of that sort of thing. Voyager could have been anywhere but acted like it was right around the corner and the big attraction when the show started was the Kazon who were as exciting as moss.
          Re: 7 of 9, I’m not immune to Jeri Ryan’s beauty (although I think she’s far prettier now than she was back then, having recently seen her in CBS’s Picard) but what I felt was wrong with Voyager is that it aimed for short term ratings by having “sexy” on display, but sacrificed long term status. B5 is legendary because it was a story arc of 5 years and committed to it in most regards (though a network issue caused an accelerated plot to be developed). Voyager will probably outlive B5 for one major reason: it has the Trek name. If not for that, it would be forgotten with Andromeda, I think, because it aimed for short term goals. Yes, Ryan was pretty but that is fleeting. A good story will outlast her leotards. Having the opportunity to tell a story about prejudice … now that could have been something. Have the crew struggle to accept her because of her implants (not those ones, come on! the borg ones!) and that would have been something genuinely enjoyable. And how could people not understand that? Remember I, Borg with Picard and Hugh??? That was AMAZING and showed Picard struggling with the Borg after his ordeal as Locutus. Imagine a season arc that could have worked with that sort of story? The end result, putting Jeri in that skin tight suit, could still have happened. But the story wasn’t created that way. The Borg implants were supposed to be hard to get out, not resolved in one episode! Anyway… rambling now.
          I think if you commit to B5, you’ll find it will take you on an arc that you won’t forget, and like me, right now you might be fighting it. I did too. Nothing can beat Trek. Until one day, something did…
          Hope you enjoy.

          PS: grammar has a place, and I am often the one saying you can’t end a sentence with a preposition, but the concept of “to each his or her own” or “to each their own” is merely to imply we are all entitled to our opinions and I respect that, as Miranda brought the point up with what I said initially.
          PPS: Shira, how could I not visit? You pay us so many compliments by being on our site, I needed to make sure to return the favor. ML

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          1. 🙂
            LOL! Thank you, Mike! 🙂
            “ome of the posts have “reply” under them and others don’t..”
            Huh? On my posts? I’ve not seen that, but can you give me an example or a link to one that does not have ‘reply’ so that I can fix that, please?

            I love this: “if you commit to B5, you’ll find it will take you on an arc that you won’t forget, and like me, right now you might be fighting it. I did too. Nothing can beat Trek. Until one day, something did…”
            Yup! 🙂

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          2. Yes, we are looking forward to watching B5 in the future, it sounds good. Chakotay, Neelix, Kes, Tuvok, Tom Paris, B’Ellana and Janeway are great characters, and I really enjoy all the time travel episodes. And the Doctor is a great character too.

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  2. “… like others to die embarrassed.”
    Is this phrase what some of you Humans call an Easter Egg?

    Also, added to reports later, was the mention of a certain Human telepath, named Ironheart, who appears to have passed beyond the rim, as a result of PsyCorps experiments. The Anla’Shok is still working to find more information from your now disbanded institution…

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  3. My apologies for getting here late! B5 greatly resembles DS9. The story is that Straczynski pitched B5 to Paramount first who rejected it but developed DS9. Coincidence? He’s left that for us to judge. That’s one reason why I’m a little hesitant to jump into reviewing DS9 – I also want to review B5 and the two would be hard to review at the same time.

    Voyager suffered for a lot of reasons. The writers really just let the ball drop in many ways. To this day I love Janeway. I didn’t like 7 of 9 in Voyager but I love her in Picard, so there’s that. And, because Jeri Ryan was cast in the role and ended up getting divorced the public fallout caused her ex to lose his Senate seat to Barack Obama and the rest is history.

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    1. No worries, Patti, thank you for popping over! I heard that JMS considered suing, but wanted to let both shows go ahead, so dropped the issue, but fan reviews I’ve seen make DS9 look very shallow in comparison to B5, with the similarities applying only to the plot outline. I can imagine that it would be hard to be a fan of both shows (hence, as you’ve pointed out in a review or two, the appearance of Majel Barret Roddenbery on B5…).
      Wow, too bad about the Voyager writing, but I was also blown away when I saw ST: Picard.
      And to think that being married (or not) to an actress could cause all of that?! Wow! I have no idea of the details behind this, but the influence of a famous personality, regardless of area of specialty, seems pretty outsized based on the appeal to the fanbase. Interesting.

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